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- So we're counting on everyone

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to ask the brilliant questions

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that their colleagues
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at the end of this session.

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So as you can see from the agenda,

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what we're trying to do

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is pull together a comprehensive overview

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of the kinds of support that
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the conduct and dissemination
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that is looking for external funding.

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We will have other opportunities
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that are not (indistinct)
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So that means we're focusing today

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on the seed grant program.

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I think we've put in the chat,

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a link to the internal grants,

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and you can go there to look for

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the other grant types that we offer.

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This is what we're focusing on today,

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and I'm going to try to move
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out of my field of vision.

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What you should have in front of you

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is the description and parameters
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for seeking external funding.

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I'm just going to review these

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with sort of an eye to
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as the rules that govern this grant.

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And then Vanessa Ruget,

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who is the current faculty fellow

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for the center for research
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and former chair

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of the university research
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which is the committee that
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will draw on her vast experience

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on reviewing these grants

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and share a few tips for
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The key components of the seed money grant

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that will lead to an application
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What this means is that you would perhaps

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be at a point in your research

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where you needed to do
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to provide sufficient data,

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to convince a funding agency
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to conduct archival research,

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to demonstrate that your
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an application to external agencies.

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the grants office,

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and Katie Sadowski from
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to join us today

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because they can help

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give you pointers about how to
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that might be interested
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where you were ready to
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These are available only
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Semi-colon, however, comma.

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that you, the full-time faculty member

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and they could be involved
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this description says
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which is that we really
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because they allow faculty
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in addition to the application
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that addresses how you
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that's the ultimate goal
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now that you're all pumped up and excited

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about how to do it successfully.

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I'm Vanessa Ruget.

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I'm from the department
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I'm also the faculty for research,

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and I've had the pleasure
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for seed grants over the years

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that I served on the research committee.

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I think these are a hidden
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that we offer.

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so we don't get as many
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identify these other external grants

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outside of your field and,

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to show how you're going to
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Like this is what I'm going
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that external funding.

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but there is a budget has to be done.

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Make sure it adds up

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because there are people in the community

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check it carefully,

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thought about, you know,
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and how you will actually
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if not the most interesting
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I did receive one.

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I was lucky to receive one
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and it did allow me to get
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before you actually send it
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Thank you, Vanessa.

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And I would encourage
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to not be shy.

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That's what...

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You know, Vanessa is really committed

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to supporting this activity

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and we'll have terrific insights.

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take a look at how you can go about

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identifying organizations,
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that would have the grants
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to put on your application.

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Katie Sadowski from
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Katie, do you wanna introduce yourself?

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who are aware of your role and your office

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then is true with some of
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I'm really happy to join everybody.

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I'm here today,

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at a later date,

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so wanted to, do you
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I'm Katie Sadowski.

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I work in our advancement office.

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I'm working with our corporate
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So our office is responsible

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for securing resources
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be it a foundation or a
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often for events,

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as well as outright corporate philanthropy

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from businesses.

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grants as well.

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we have a Salem state
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which is a private.

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that we are able to accept
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and then sent over to the
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when we do get gifts to the university.

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So our organization is set
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in that way, just given our public status.

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that the university can't
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that's where our colleagues
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So I'm part of a larger department.

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I'm the only one that
works in our corporate

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and foundation relation
pieces exclusively,

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but part of a larger
department in advancement

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where we're seeking resources

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from all sorts of different areas,

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annual giving, major giving,
as well as plan giving.

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And again, the corporate and
foundation relations piece.

275
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So, and seeking money,

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not only from those
institutional partners,

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but also our alumni and
friends of the university.

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So Vanessa actually said some
really interesting things

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that I kind of was jotting
down as she was talking

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that are also important for our folks

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that are on seeking money

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from the corporate and
foundation relation realm

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is that following guidelines is extremely,

284
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extremely important.

285
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And I can't stress that enough.

286
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And honestly, your secret application

287
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is a great way to kind
of practice those skills.

288
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Grant applications, especially
to foundations right now.

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We're extraordinarily competitive.

290
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Where seeing in many cases
like a 20 percent chance

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of being funded on an
application that we submit.

292
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So we're really trying to focus

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on understanding projects

294
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and trying to find ways
that are really good fits.

295
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So specific to the seed grant application

296
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and how we can hopefully help
you all with the process.

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And I just want to pause,
cause I can't remember,

298
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is there a number, Elizabeth or Vanessa,

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that people need to provide?

300
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Like, do they need three

301
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or is it just talk a little bit

302
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about what future funding looks like?

303
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- We usually (indistinct) at least three.

304
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- Okay, great.

305
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That helps.

306
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So in terms of grants research,

307
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we are always happy to connect with folks

308
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across the university faculty,

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as well as staff on any project

310
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that they're working on that
needs additional resources.

311
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I will say that we do have a process

312
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through which we go for that

313
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to make sure that there's
also internal approval,

314
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kind of for you who are faculty within,

315
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on the academic side of the house.

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So with your Dean and with a provost,

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when we are seeking external funding,

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just to make sure that it aligns with

319
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our university priorities.

320
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But we often, we meet
with faculty one-on-one

321
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whenever somebody has an interest

322
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to talk about ways in which,

323
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in places which we might
be able to seek funding.

324
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So we explore things
like talking to faculty

325
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about their connections.

326
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You know, oftentimes if you're a member

327
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of a professional association,

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they have grant opportunities
within your association.

329
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That could be a great way

330
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for you to enhance your scholarship

331
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after receiving your seed grant.

332
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Maybe you have a connection
with a local business

333
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or a vendor to your department,

334
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or just like a relationship.

335
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We have a colleague who has
a professional relationship

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with a foundation.

337
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We were able to secure
a really wonderful grant

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because they were peers in an association.

339
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And that was our connection
into the organization

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when they otherwise don't have
an open competitive process

341
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necessarily for support.

342
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Our department also reviews
requests for proposals

343
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from a number of different sources,

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both locally with organizations

345
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like Essex County Community Foundation

346
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and the Boston Foundation,

347
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but also with national areas,

348
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such as the Foundation
Center is an organization

349
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that's based out of Washington DC,

350
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but they publish a request or proposal

351
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or RFP notification every week.

352
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And I review that every week.

353
00:15:42,650 --> 00:15:44,970
And if there's something that
I've talked to you about,

354
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I'm always happy to push
out that opportunity.

355
00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,390
That may not necessarily align

356
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with your seed grant application,

357
00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:51,810
but I'm always gathering info

358
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on what folks are doing on campus,

359
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because we have such a fabulous
diversity of disciplines

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and projects and initiatives

361
00:15:58,860 --> 00:16:00,510
that if something sparks our mind,

362
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I usually reach out either to
an individual faculty member,

363
00:16:03,389 --> 00:16:05,300
their department chair,

364
00:16:05,300 --> 00:16:07,443
or sometimes the Dean as well.

365
00:16:07,443 --> 00:16:10,430
Also one of the other things that we do

366
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when we're kind of trying to figure out

367
00:16:12,211 --> 00:16:14,850
potential funders for research

368
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is kind of to do research
almost from a backwards way.

369
00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:19,720
And thinking about that from,

370
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if you see another project

371
00:16:21,010 --> 00:16:23,440
this may be perhaps similar
or somewhat connected

372
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or parallel to the work
you were looking to do.

373
00:16:26,330 --> 00:16:28,650
Maybe even try to figure
out who's funded them

374
00:16:28,650 --> 00:16:30,240
and see if there might be a way or a route

375
00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,250
to connect to that in
terms of looking at it

376
00:16:32,250 --> 00:16:33,600
for a possible funder.

377
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And then the last thing I'll mention too,

378
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is that we just recently
renewed our subscription

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to Philanthropy Massachusetts,

380
00:16:42,750 --> 00:16:45,181
which is a local again, a
Massachusetts organization.

381
00:16:45,181 --> 00:16:46,717
They used to have a database

382
00:16:46,717 --> 00:16:48,883
where it was a searchable database,

383
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smaller than foundation directory

384
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,010
that I mentioned before,

385
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but they've sent it at that,

386
00:16:53,490 --> 00:16:56,210
but in its place where they offer

387
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one-on-one grant office
hours with a researcher there

388
00:17:00,010 --> 00:17:02,460
that can help you work
through your specific idea.

389
00:17:02,460 --> 00:17:06,310
So if you are interested
in having an office hour,

390
00:17:06,310 --> 00:17:10,420
I think anyone who's
part of our institution

391
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can have some time with that researcher

392
00:17:11,980 --> 00:17:13,980
and you can sign up to create an account

393
00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:15,670
and we can help you sign
up to create the account,

394
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and then you can schedule the meeting

395
00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:20,020
and then spend that time with that person.

396
00:17:20,020 --> 00:17:22,540
I think everyone's kind of
eligible in our organization

397
00:17:22,540 --> 00:17:25,430
to have like one, one hour
with them pretty much,

398
00:17:25,430 --> 00:17:27,450
I think for our year long membership,

399
00:17:27,450 --> 00:17:28,530
which we have just renewed,

400
00:17:28,530 --> 00:17:30,140
but that's a really great way.

401
00:17:30,140 --> 00:17:33,430
Unfortunately, our department,
as I mentioned is just me,

402
00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:34,350
so it's really small.

403
00:17:34,350 --> 00:17:37,270
So I don't often have time

404
00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:40,950
to do thorough, in-depth
research for faculty.

405
00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:42,700
I can always brainstorm though,

406
00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:44,060
and can talk to you about ideas,

407
00:17:44,060 --> 00:17:45,703
but I don't often,

408
00:17:45,703 --> 00:17:47,280
I just have the resources right now

409
00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,160
with where we are to be able

410
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,050
to really do some
thorough in-depth research

411
00:17:53,050 --> 00:17:53,883
for your project,

412
00:17:53,883 --> 00:17:54,800
but I'm always happy to kind of steer you

413
00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,567
in the right direction or point folks

414
00:17:56,567 --> 00:17:59,430
to any resources that they might have.

415
00:17:59,430 --> 00:18:00,760
And I'll just mention, you know,

416
00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,950
this is a little bit further field,

417
00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:05,140
but again, after you get
your seed grant successfully

418
00:18:05,140 --> 00:18:06,950
that you were awarded
from the internal process,

419
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:08,130
we're also here to work with you

420
00:18:08,130 --> 00:18:10,780
when you are ready to seek out that funder

421
00:18:10,780 --> 00:18:12,685
to apply for your next step.

422
00:18:12,685 --> 00:18:14,870
Again, anything that's private.

423
00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:17,160
Elaine, I'm sure Elizabeth

424
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,110
will introduced Elaine in a moment

425
00:18:18,110 --> 00:18:20,320
and she'll talk about her side of things,

426
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,590
but I will just also,
again, just one more time,

427
00:18:24,590 --> 00:18:25,890
reiterate what Vanessa said

428
00:18:25,890 --> 00:18:28,990
that anytime we're looking at a funder,

429
00:18:28,990 --> 00:18:30,230
whether it's internal, external,

430
00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:31,750
it's always great to have a general sense

431
00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:32,690
of what your project is,

432
00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:34,350
kind of the scope of it and the timeline

433
00:18:34,350 --> 00:18:36,080
as well as your budget.

434
00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,820
It also helps if you're having
some consultative meeting

435
00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:42,630
as you're working on
your secret application.

436
00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:44,380
'Cause sometimes the scope really depends

437
00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:47,420
on who will pick for a possible fit

438
00:18:47,420 --> 00:18:49,050
that you can put on your application

439
00:18:49,050 --> 00:18:51,090
as somebody that you might
like to pursue in the future.

440
00:18:51,090 --> 00:18:54,010
So I'm happy to answer any
questions if anybody has,

441
00:18:54,010 --> 00:18:55,160
either at the moment

442
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,060
or as we continue to go
along in our session today.

443
00:18:59,060 --> 00:19:01,433
But thank you so much
for having me join you.

444
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,880
- And thank you, Katie,

445
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,830
for giving us that comprehensive
overview of what you do.

446
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:13,330
I'm sure every single point,

447
00:19:13,330 --> 00:19:15,300
you could have taken another half-hour

448
00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:16,890
to sort of drill down,

449
00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:18,240
but I think you did a great job

450
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,998
of giving us the big picture,

451
00:19:19,998 --> 00:19:24,530
and clearly we just need to clone you.

452
00:19:24,530 --> 00:19:27,840
And I think if there were
maybe three or four Katies,

453
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,283
we could definitely eat up all your time.

454
00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:35,630
- There's so much work here
that deserves to be funded.

455
00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:36,810
And it's just a matter of us

456
00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:38,920
being able to harness everybody's energy

457
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,180
and make sure that we're
making compelling cases

458
00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:42,880
because I think we really have

459
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,930
a winning institution and faculty.

460
00:19:46,930 --> 00:19:48,323
- Yeah, absolutely.

461
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,800
So Katie has talked about

462
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,243
the private foundations and corporations.

463
00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:58,630
Elaine Milo, the grants office

464
00:19:58,630 --> 00:20:03,630
is going to talk about
another very large operation

465
00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:08,150
or realm of possibilities,

466
00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:13,150
and that is public monies,
state and federal money.

467
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,390
My suspicion is that, you know,

468
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:18,770
if you want to dream big
and go for big bucks,

469
00:20:18,770 --> 00:20:22,157
it's Elaine's shop that
you're really going to

470
00:20:22,157 --> 00:20:25,123
want to go shopping in for your grant.

471
00:20:26,410 --> 00:20:31,410
Elaine has terrific depth of experience

472
00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:36,700
in working with state and
federal funding organizations

473
00:20:36,820 --> 00:20:39,711
like NSF, NIH,

474
00:20:39,711 --> 00:20:44,711
they all have sort of training
sessions or outreach sessions

475
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:51,880
and Elaine familiarizes herself
with the changing landscape,

476
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,990
which does change.

477
00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:56,580
It changes with, I'm sure
this is inconceivable to you,

478
00:20:56,580 --> 00:20:59,470
but as the political winds shift

479
00:20:59,470 --> 00:21:04,450
so to the federal funding might shift,

480
00:21:04,450 --> 00:21:06,500
but Elaine will be up on all of that.

481
00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:10,760
And she will now share
with us sort of an overview

482
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,160
of what she can help with

483
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,900
and it will, as with Katie's

484
00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:16,350
be sort of a tip of the iceberg.

485
00:21:16,350 --> 00:21:17,510
Thank you, Elaine.

486
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:19,020
- Thank you, Elizabeth.

487
00:21:19,020 --> 00:21:22,170
And thank you to everyone
who is here today

488
00:21:22,170 --> 00:21:26,100
and everyone who's gonna
tune in with the recording.

489
00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:29,710
I think recording these
sessions is a wonderful idea

490
00:21:29,710 --> 00:21:32,300
because I totally understand
that not everybody

491
00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:35,007
has an hour in the middle of the afternoon

492
00:21:35,007 --> 00:21:40,007
to take the time to, you know,

493
00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:41,550
learn about these different things.

494
00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:44,420
But I will also say that it's great

495
00:21:44,420 --> 00:21:46,050
that we're kind of mirroring

496
00:21:46,050 --> 00:21:48,110
what Elizabeth just talked about

497
00:21:48,110 --> 00:21:51,360
with the feds and with the state agencies.

498
00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:54,490
They've begun recording
their informative sessions

499
00:21:54,490 --> 00:21:57,250
and we can just go back
and take a look at them.

500
00:21:57,250 --> 00:22:00,152
Before I get into anything

501
00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:05,152
I'd like to give a shameless
plug to all of us here.

502
00:22:06,170 --> 00:22:09,410
I don't know if you all have seen

503
00:22:09,410 --> 00:22:13,527
that we have scheduled
office hours coming up,

504
00:22:14,980 --> 00:22:16,343
I believe next week.

505
00:22:17,978 --> 00:22:19,160
And is it next week?

506
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,700
Week after.

507
00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:21,533
Thank you.

508
00:22:21,533 --> 00:22:22,366
Okay.

509
00:22:22,366 --> 00:22:23,670
And I don't know when this recording

510
00:22:23,670 --> 00:22:25,170
is gonna be viewed by anybody,

511
00:22:25,170 --> 00:22:27,630
but I made a promise to myself

512
00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:29,960
that I was going to get the
word out as much as I could.

513
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,120
And so I'm putting it out here

514
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,060
even though it's not directly related

515
00:22:34,060 --> 00:22:35,480
to what we're talking about.

516
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,766
It all comes together, right?

517
00:22:37,766 --> 00:22:41,730
But the office hours are
a piece of what we do.

518
00:22:41,730 --> 00:22:46,730
So as Katie explained how she
works with private funders

519
00:22:47,870 --> 00:22:50,040
and corporate foundations,

520
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,080
I do basically the same,

521
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,760
except I do it with public money.

522
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,410
So the funders that are...

523
00:22:59,410 --> 00:23:01,230
That faculty come to me

524
00:23:01,230 --> 00:23:06,230
or I send out RFPs,

525
00:23:06,370 --> 00:23:08,220
you know, grant opportunities on

526
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:12,100
are usually either state of Massachusetts

527
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:13,250
or federal funders.

528
00:23:13,250 --> 00:23:15,510
Sometimes there's some municipalities.

529
00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:18,330
And I think one of the biggest differences

530
00:23:18,330 --> 00:23:23,260
between the opportunities
that Katie looks at

531
00:23:23,260 --> 00:23:24,280
and that I look at, well,

532
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,660
there are a number of differences,

533
00:23:25,660 --> 00:23:30,080
but I think one of the
biggest things is two things.

534
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,600
A, dollars,

535
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,810
and two, scope of work
and length of the project.

536
00:23:34,810 --> 00:23:35,850
Generally speaking.

537
00:23:35,850 --> 00:23:37,120
And Katie, correct me if I'm wrong,

538
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:41,550
'cause I know that there are
some big private agencies,

539
00:23:41,550 --> 00:23:42,840
Robert Wood Johnson, et cetera,

540
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,600
out there that do multi-year funding.

541
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,380
But I think for the most part,

542
00:23:46,380 --> 00:23:48,740
when we look at funders
on the private end,

543
00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:52,770
we probably look at smaller
money in shorter periods of time

544
00:23:52,770 --> 00:23:55,130
versus multi-year grants.

545
00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:57,200
- I would say that I think we're shifting.

546
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,240
- [Elaine] Oh good.

547
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,500
- We've set it expectations
probably, I think,

548
00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,500
a little bit higher and broader

549
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:02,700
than we have in the past

550
00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:04,810
based on some recent funding,

551
00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:05,837
recent projects that have been funded.

552
00:24:05,837 --> 00:24:07,350
But I think in the past, yes.

553
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:09,330
To answer your question, I think yes.

554
00:24:09,330 --> 00:24:10,190
- Yeah, all right.

555
00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:13,823
So, with that thought,

556
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,801
when you're looking to...

557
00:24:16,801 --> 00:24:19,630
As you can see, what we've done is

558
00:24:19,630 --> 00:24:23,140
we've talked about the internal grants

559
00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:27,210
then, you know, Katie went
to the private foundations

560
00:24:27,210 --> 00:24:28,043
and corporations,

561
00:24:28,043 --> 00:24:30,840
and now we're talking
about the public money.

562
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,740
And generally speaking,

563
00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:35,670
that would kind of be the road I think

564
00:24:35,670 --> 00:24:37,510
that a faculty member would take,

565
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:42,510
if they start out internally
with a small project

566
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,140
and develop it over the years.

567
00:24:45,140 --> 00:24:47,370
That's what's happened
to a few of our faculty,

568
00:24:47,370 --> 00:24:48,690
If any of you,

569
00:24:48,690 --> 00:24:53,233
I'm going to drop a
name, Brad Hubeny in GLS.

570
00:24:53,233 --> 00:24:56,380
He started with small internal grants

571
00:24:56,380 --> 00:24:59,137
and worked his way up I'll say

572
00:24:59,137 --> 00:25:01,800
to a larger federal grants,

573
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,520
national science foundation.

574
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,841
So that's the kind of
traditional, I think, trajectory

575
00:25:07,841 --> 00:25:09,530
that faculty take.

576
00:25:09,530 --> 00:25:14,530
But obviously we have veteran faculty

577
00:25:15,070 --> 00:25:16,850
who have come.

578
00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:18,790
Some of them even come into the university

579
00:25:18,790 --> 00:25:21,140
with very mature projects

580
00:25:21,140 --> 00:25:22,930
that they're looking for funding for,

581
00:25:22,930 --> 00:25:25,270
and we can certainly help them there.

582
00:25:25,270 --> 00:25:29,830
One of the things that we can do,

583
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:33,400
and I think Katie mentioned
talking about a budget

584
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,649
and Vanessa mentioned it as well.

585
00:25:35,649 --> 00:25:40,649
I don't know what like details you require

586
00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:45,570
for the grant budgets, the
internal grant budgets.

587
00:25:45,570 --> 00:25:50,240
But I think it's great that
you do require some detail

588
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,500
because certainly as faculty progress,

589
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,650
they're going to have to
provide more and more detail

590
00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:56,490
on their budgets

591
00:25:56,490 --> 00:25:58,680
and make sure that they relate back

592
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,230
to whatever it is they're doing,

593
00:26:00,230 --> 00:26:02,040
what their scope of work is,

594
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,380
and that type of thing.

595
00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:07,070
So for us, as Katie mentioned,

596
00:26:07,070 --> 00:26:12,010
when we are presented
with a grant opportunity

597
00:26:12,010 --> 00:26:13,940
and faculty are interested in applying,

598
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:18,940
we follow the same route,
I'll say, as Katie does,

599
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,276
in terms of getting internal approvals.

600
00:26:23,276 --> 00:26:25,920
One of the things we can help you do

601
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,790
is if you have a grant project

602
00:26:28,790 --> 00:26:32,980
that requires resources,

603
00:26:32,980 --> 00:26:35,150
Salem State resources,

604
00:26:35,150 --> 00:26:38,977
whether it be use of
classrooms, meeting areas,

605
00:26:38,977 --> 00:26:42,570
dorm space, whatever it might be,

606
00:26:42,570 --> 00:26:46,850
we can help you to get those commitments

607
00:26:46,850 --> 00:26:48,880
from the various departments.

608
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,240
So that is something that, you know,

609
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,130
it's a situation where we touch
all areas of the university.

610
00:26:57,130 --> 00:26:59,574
So we're constantly
talking to different people

611
00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:02,500
within the departments
to figure out, okay,

612
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:04,280
what's the, you know,

613
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,790
what's the value of a 20,000
square foot classroom.

614
00:27:08,790 --> 00:27:11,050
And I'm probably getting into
the weeds a little bit here,

615
00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:13,560
but I'm just doing it so
that you folks realize

616
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,230
that that's not something that
you have to struggle with.

617
00:27:17,230 --> 00:27:19,890
That that's the type of
thing that we are here for.

618
00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:23,560
What we look to you, the faculty for

619
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,560
is the content of a grant project.

620
00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:30,582
So in other words, we need you to,

621
00:27:30,582 --> 00:27:32,980
as Vanessa was talking about,

622
00:27:32,980 --> 00:27:35,250
you know, talk about your methodology,

623
00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:38,830
talk about your...

624
00:27:40,050 --> 00:27:41,950
What am I trying to think of now?

625
00:27:41,950 --> 00:27:44,981
Oh, the word, it's gone again.

626
00:27:44,981 --> 00:27:45,814
(laughs)

627
00:27:45,814 --> 00:27:46,985
I practiced this.

628
00:27:46,985 --> 00:27:51,020
And, you know, just all of the content,

629
00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:55,980
all of the kind of specialty pieces

630
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:57,740
that you need to do

631
00:27:57,740 --> 00:28:00,800
or that you would be
doing as a faculty member.

632
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,210
For us, we take on things like the budget,

633
00:28:04,210 --> 00:28:06,550
making sure that, you know,

634
00:28:06,550 --> 00:28:07,990
you've got all the right forms

635
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:11,010
because when you look at state

636
00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:13,958
and federal grant applications,

637
00:28:13,958 --> 00:28:15,370
many of them,

638
00:28:15,370 --> 00:28:20,150
I will say 99.9 percent
of them are electronic,

639
00:28:20,150 --> 00:28:23,030
they're online, they're through grants.gov

640
00:28:23,030 --> 00:28:24,090
or they have through,

641
00:28:24,090 --> 00:28:29,090
Massachusetts has a buying
site called COMMBUYS.

642
00:28:29,670 --> 00:28:34,670
So most of the grant
submissions are electronic.

643
00:28:34,810 --> 00:28:35,980
We can do that.

644
00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:38,810
You don't need to sit
in front of a computer

645
00:28:38,810 --> 00:28:40,980
and watch a file upload

646
00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:43,950
and make sure that it's
uploaded, et cetera.

647
00:28:43,950 --> 00:28:46,253
Those are the types of
things that we can do.

648
00:28:48,370 --> 00:28:50,690
I will say, additionally,

649
00:28:50,690 --> 00:28:55,200
one of the things that we can help you do

650
00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:00,200
is to a degree search for
funding opportunities.

651
00:29:01,170 --> 00:29:05,300
We have a great resource
called grants resource center.

652
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:08,600
It's through the academic, AASCU,

653
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,690
American Association of State
Colleges and Universities.

654
00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:13,640
It's an online site.

655
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,732
We pay a decent amount of money
to subscribe to this site.

656
00:29:17,732 --> 00:29:19,800
Now the shameless plug.

657
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,490
We've been an overview
coming up on November 4th

658
00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:23,920
that anybody can attend.

659
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,650
And I think we need to talk
about recording that too.

660
00:29:26,650 --> 00:29:31,323
The grants resource center
has a robust database.

661
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:34,974
Granted, largely for the bigger grants,

662
00:29:34,974 --> 00:29:37,840
mostly for the public,

663
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,250
some large private grants,

664
00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:44,960
but they are a great
resource for things like,

665
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,328
they have a proposal library
that has successful proposals

666
00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:49,630
that you can read.

667
00:29:49,630 --> 00:29:54,240
If you're interested in a
particular grant program.

668
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,760
I'm just gonna throw this out there.

669
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,270
You know, the TRIO
programs have things like

670
00:29:58,270 --> 00:29:59,970
student support services,

671
00:29:59,970 --> 00:30:04,222
upward bound, you know, they're
large programmatic grants.

672
00:30:04,222 --> 00:30:06,730
We have a couple on campus.

673
00:30:06,730 --> 00:30:10,850
So if you want to see what a
successful proposal looks like,

674
00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:12,630
you can just go to the proposal library

675
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:17,260
and you can get a copy from
grants resource center.

676
00:30:17,260 --> 00:30:20,070
As I said, they have a
real robust database.

677
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:25,070
They have this thing called
faculty alert system,

678
00:30:25,610 --> 00:30:29,260
where you as a faculty
member can go in to this,

679
00:30:29,260 --> 00:30:32,100
you can fill out a form, so to speak,

680
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,417
an online form that identifies

681
00:30:34,417 --> 00:30:38,151
what your research interests are.

682
00:30:38,151 --> 00:30:41,560
And then monthly, you'll get an email

683
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,520
that says, oh, look, there's
this grant opportunity,

684
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,940
that grant opportunity.

685
00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:47,050
You may be interested.

686
00:30:47,050 --> 00:30:48,250
You know, you'll probably get a list

687
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:52,320
of 10 or 12 opportunities
that you may be interested in.

688
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,121
They may be related to
what you're working on.

689
00:30:56,121 --> 00:30:58,740
At least you'll know,

690
00:30:58,740 --> 00:31:01,520
you'll get a sense of what's out there.

691
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,810
So they can do that type of thing.

692
00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:06,291
And we can certainly help you as well

693
00:31:06,291 --> 00:31:10,070
to get acquainted with that
very, very important website.

694
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:13,054
It's really like having
another staff member

695
00:31:13,054 --> 00:31:15,500
available to you

696
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,170
because our office like Katie's office,

697
00:31:18,170 --> 00:31:19,770
we're a one person office,

698
00:31:19,770 --> 00:31:24,410
and we, you know, we do the
best we can with what we've got,

699
00:31:24,410 --> 00:31:27,121
but we don't always have
time to do everything.

700
00:31:27,121 --> 00:31:31,773
And so grants resource
center really helps us.

701
00:31:33,715 --> 00:31:34,830
I'm trying to think of what else.

702
00:31:34,830 --> 00:31:39,830
I think one other thing that
I promised myself I would do.

703
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:46,373
When you're talking about
applying for grants,

704
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,000
one of the best things...

705
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,050
I can't do this for you.

706
00:31:50,050 --> 00:31:51,680
you can only do it for yourself.

707
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,000
But one of the best things you can do

708
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,320
as a faculty member who's
interested in applying for grants

709
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,913
is to review grants.

710
00:32:00,913 --> 00:32:02,620
That is,

711
00:32:02,620 --> 00:32:05,540
if you talk to your colleagues
who have had the opportunity

712
00:32:05,540 --> 00:32:06,560
to review grants,

713
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,350
I'm gonna bet dollars to donuts

714
00:32:08,350 --> 00:32:10,823
they're going to tell
you that it was a huge,

715
00:32:12,290 --> 00:32:13,760
helpful experience to them

716
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,414
when they came to
writing their own grants.

717
00:32:16,414 --> 00:32:19,090
We're revamping our website right now

718
00:32:19,090 --> 00:32:21,780
in the research hub,

719
00:32:21,780 --> 00:32:25,490
and a piece of that is going to be links

720
00:32:25,490 --> 00:32:27,180
to the different agencies

721
00:32:27,180 --> 00:32:29,970
that are looking for reviewers

722
00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:31,843
for the different grant programs.

723
00:32:35,057 --> 00:32:36,657
So Evea put something out there.

724
00:32:38,564 --> 00:32:39,566
Oh oh.

725
00:32:39,566 --> 00:32:40,590
Evea, what'd you put out?

726
00:32:40,590 --> 00:32:42,255
- Sorry, the information

727
00:32:42,255 --> 00:32:43,490
about the grants resource center

728
00:32:43,490 --> 00:32:44,480
that you're talking about.

729
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,623
- Okay, thank you.

730
00:32:45,623 --> 00:32:47,070
I didn't see the whole thing.

731
00:32:47,070 --> 00:32:49,086
But anyway, yeah, so we're gonna

732
00:32:49,086 --> 00:32:53,320
take the opportunity to
start publicizing that

733
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,360
because it's invaluable,

734
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,760
and oh, by the way, generally speaking

735
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,070
you get a stipend for your time.

736
00:33:00,070 --> 00:33:01,540
It used to be, you had to,

737
00:33:01,540 --> 00:33:02,980
especially for the
federal grants, you know,

738
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:05,250
you had to get on a
plane, fly to Washington,

739
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:08,960
sit in a room with six other
people, read the grants,

740
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,400
talk about 'em.

741
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,980
It was fine,

742
00:33:12,980 --> 00:33:16,660
but now all you do is
you read these things

743
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:18,630
and you meet, you know, electronically,

744
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:20,630
you meet virtually,

745
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:23,685
do the same thing, have
discussions about grant proposals.

746
00:33:23,685 --> 00:33:26,860
It really, really helps you to know

747
00:33:26,860 --> 00:33:31,860
A, what the process is like,

748
00:33:31,870 --> 00:33:35,141
the actual real-time process is like

749
00:33:35,141 --> 00:33:37,770
of grant reviewers

750
00:33:37,770 --> 00:33:42,240
so you get to know who you're
going to be writing to,

751
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,670
who your audience is.

752
00:33:43,670 --> 00:33:45,440
And, you know,

753
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,440
you also make connections
within your area of expertise.

754
00:33:50,490 --> 00:33:52,550
So I highly recommend that

755
00:33:53,510 --> 00:33:55,950
as another tool that you use

756
00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:59,420
to enhance your grant writing skills.

757
00:33:59,420 --> 00:34:00,880
So thank you.

758
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,331
I am also happy to answer any questions,

759
00:34:03,331 --> 00:34:06,823
and thanks for tuning in.

760
00:34:08,150 --> 00:34:10,120
- And thank you, Elaine.

761
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,180
I think it's so encouraging to listen

762
00:34:13,180 --> 00:34:15,959
to both you and Katie talk and to realize

763
00:34:15,959 --> 00:34:19,990
just how much does exist on campus,

764
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:23,640
even in these areas

765
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,606
where there's only one person

766
00:34:25,606 --> 00:34:29,580
sort of holding up the fort
or whatever the metaphor is,

767
00:34:29,580 --> 00:34:33,740
but your willingness to help both of you

768
00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:37,090
came across very clearly
in your presentation.

769
00:34:37,090 --> 00:34:38,260
So I thank you.

770
00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:39,590
I do want to introduce

771
00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:42,449
one other very important resource

772
00:34:42,449 --> 00:34:47,449
Evea Raye, who is the program assistant,

773
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,340
which is a title that has
absolutely insufficient reflection

774
00:34:53,340 --> 00:34:56,180
of her importance to
the center for research

775
00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:58,213
and creative activities, activities.

776
00:34:59,686 --> 00:35:02,000
The role that she plays

777
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,450
in the internal grants

778
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,323
is really sort of a without which not.

779
00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:15,727
She does the tracking,

780
00:35:15,727 --> 00:35:20,120
entering, uploading,
keeping of the spreadsheet,

781
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,120
making sure everything
is there and loaded up

782
00:35:25,150 --> 00:35:27,600
for the committee to review,

783
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,250
and keeps the communication flow going

784
00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:33,550
between the committee and the applicants.

785
00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:36,430
And I offer her also as a resource,

786
00:35:36,430 --> 00:35:41,270
if you have about whether
material had come through yet,

787
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:43,530
or you sent in the email,

788
00:35:43,530 --> 00:35:48,210
but you thought maybe you
left off an attachment.

789
00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:51,240
Evea is extraordinarily helpful.

790
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:56,120
She will also be posting if
she hasn't already in the chat,

791
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,120
the full list of the fall 2021

792
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,163
grant related activities.

793
00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:09,960
So, this will give you a
sense of the array of support

794
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,993
that we're offering.

795
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:12,983
So with that,

796
00:36:12,983 --> 00:36:16,800
I'm going to ask that
anybody who is interested

797
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,270
in asking questions.

798
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:20,810
I think we're a small enough group

799
00:36:20,810 --> 00:36:22,390
so that you can just leap in,

800
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:24,030
or you can raise your hand.

801
00:36:24,030 --> 00:36:27,810
I see a question from Raminder.

802
00:36:27,810 --> 00:36:31,500
Can faculty access and get an account

803
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,623
on the grants resource
center through Polaris.

804
00:36:35,590 --> 00:36:37,290
Elaine, you want to take that one?

805
00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:39,600
Just talk a little bit about.

806
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,770
- Absolutely can,

807
00:36:41,770 --> 00:36:45,330
It does require a password and a login,

808
00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:47,170
login and a password.

809
00:36:47,170 --> 00:36:49,680
And we do that because we want to limit it

810
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,000
to only those people
with Salem State faculty

811
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,690
and staff with Salem State addresses.

812
00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:59,690
Raminder, I would be happy
to email you the information,

813
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,690
the login and the password,

814
00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:05,830
and hopefully you can feel free.

815
00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:08,840
Well, you can feel free to
share it with your faculty.

816
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Again, there is just a wealth
of information on that site.

817
00:37:15,070 --> 00:37:18,670
So yes, faculty have access to it.

818
00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:21,020
We encourage faculty to go there

819
00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:25,020
because it's, as I said earlier,

820
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:26,800
it's like having another staff person.

821
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,450
It's got way more
information on those pages

822
00:37:29,450 --> 00:37:30,370
than I have in my head.

823
00:37:30,370 --> 00:37:31,900
I can tell you that much.

824
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,137
So I'll email that to you.

825
00:37:37,971 --> 00:37:39,640
- [Elizabeth] That'll help.

826
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,890
- Yeah, I could put it in the chat.

827
00:37:43,890 --> 00:37:44,723
Do you want me to?

828
00:37:44,723 --> 00:37:45,793
Is that easier?

829
00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:48,230
- [Elizabeth] Yeah, that's fine too.

830
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:49,597
- Okay, let me just do that,

831
00:37:49,597 --> 00:37:51,773
because then everybody can have it.

832
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,600
- But Raminder, do encourage your faculty

833
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,365
to attend the session
with the representative

834
00:37:58,365 --> 00:38:01,090
from the grants research center.

835
00:38:01,090 --> 00:38:01,923
- I will.

836
00:38:01,923 --> 00:38:03,180
I actually started this thing.

837
00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:05,310
I actually wanted to
keep myself my video off

838
00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:07,820
because I thought maybe
they'll get the faculty

839
00:38:07,820 --> 00:38:09,340
if I let them talk,

840
00:38:09,340 --> 00:38:10,380
but I did want to attend

841
00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:13,000
so that I could share what I learned here.

842
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,990
Again, the faculty within BSB.

843
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:20,400
And I have already shared the email

844
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,320
that you sent over, Elizabeth,

845
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,541
with respect to all of the things.

846
00:38:24,541 --> 00:38:28,090
- And we'll make sure you
get a copy of the link

847
00:38:28,090 --> 00:38:31,500
to this presentation as
soon as it's available

848
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:32,890
for distribution.

849
00:38:32,890 --> 00:38:33,723
- [Woman] Sure.

850
00:38:33,723 --> 00:38:37,670
- And I suspect that
if it would be helpful

851
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:39,050
in addition to this,

852
00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:43,520
to have anyone really from this team,

853
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,950
talk to your faculty specifically,

854
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:50,203
we could probably figure
out a way to do that.

855
00:38:51,210 --> 00:38:52,083
- [Woman] Yes, I think,

856
00:38:52,083 --> 00:38:54,720
I think we've talked
about it once before that.

857
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:56,900
I would actually like to have,

858
00:38:56,900 --> 00:39:00,080
one of our all faculty
meetings have a (indistinct)

859
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,080
devoted to, you know, CRCA

860
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:08,100
and probably a little bit a part of it

861
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:10,080
to the library folks.

862
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,651
And I had hoped that we would

863
00:39:14,651 --> 00:39:19,013
be out of this work to rule situation

864
00:39:19,013 --> 00:39:21,343
and we would have accomplished
some of the things

865
00:39:21,343 --> 00:39:22,560
that we wanted to accomplish,

866
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,780
but our all faculty
meetings are the only place

867
00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:27,713
that we can then take
on some of the things

868
00:39:27,713 --> 00:39:30,520
that we otherwise would have
done in other committees.

869
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,730
So that's how our hands kind of got tied.

870
00:39:32,730 --> 00:39:35,860
Otherwise this November
meeting would have been one

871
00:39:35,860 --> 00:39:37,990
that I would have told
you to probably come.

872
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:40,220
So I'm hoping something early spring.

873
00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:41,456
- Okay.

874
00:39:41,456 --> 00:39:42,799
- [Woman] You don't
want it to go too long,

875
00:39:42,799 --> 00:39:45,670
but I am hoping that as
soon as that comes out,

876
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:48,902
you know, that faculty
come out of work to rule.

877
00:39:48,902 --> 00:39:51,330
That I'm able to then say, okay,

878
00:39:51,330 --> 00:39:52,670
now maybe in the next faculty meeting

879
00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:53,880
we can do more to this.

880
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,713
- Perfect.

881
00:39:54,713 --> 00:39:56,123
Great.

882
00:39:56,123 --> 00:39:58,360
- I'm also happy to share
with you, if that's helpful,

883
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,490
the instructions for faculty
creating their own accounts

884
00:40:02,490 --> 00:40:04,390
for Philanthropy Massachusetts,

885
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:06,900
to work through either having access

886
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:09,300
to some of their specific
requests for proposals,

887
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:14,300
as well as scheduling a
research hour with them.

888
00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:15,890
I think the only thing
I kind of didn't mention

889
00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:17,180
is that if a faculty member

890
00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:18,470
is interested in pursuing a grant,

891
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:21,080
we do ask that they reach out to us first,

892
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,260
before they do that.

893
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:25,615
Oftentimes we may already
have a conversation

894
00:40:25,615 --> 00:40:29,007
and progress with somebody that way either

895
00:40:29,007 --> 00:40:33,230
have us have to understand or prioritize

896
00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:35,670
and understand where we may take an effort

897
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:38,220
for what's the best fit
for the funder's interests.

898
00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:40,630
Sometimes there's also a
prohibition I should say as well,

899
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:42,420
because we already have an active grant,

900
00:40:42,420 --> 00:40:44,490
and we're not allowed to
apply for a second grant.

901
00:40:44,490 --> 00:40:45,810
It also protects the faculty member,

902
00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:47,230
if it is a new relationship,

903
00:40:47,230 --> 00:40:48,880
and they end up securing a grant

904
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,790
that we protect in that
relationship as well.

905
00:40:51,790 --> 00:40:54,011
So not having somebody else
who may be interested in it,

906
00:40:54,011 --> 00:40:55,940
step on anybody else's toes.

907
00:40:55,940 --> 00:40:57,680
So just wanted to say that too,

908
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,930
that while we're, of course,

909
00:40:58,930 --> 00:41:01,210
faculty can certainly
spend time one-on-one

910
00:41:01,210 --> 00:41:02,043
with researchers.

911
00:41:02,043 --> 00:41:03,210
If anybody's pursuing a grant

912
00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:05,070
that kind of falls within our area,

913
00:41:05,070 --> 00:41:07,830
we just like to work with them

914
00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:11,533
and help them present the best
proposal possible forward.

915
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,926
- [Woman] I think the part that
you just mentioned right now

916
00:41:14,926 --> 00:41:17,280
might actually be easier accomplished

917
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,660
because I, from time to time,

918
00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:24,660
I do want to have Taylor talk
with our department chairs

919
00:41:24,780 --> 00:41:25,960
and, you know,

920
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,584
at least once a semester or
once a year at the very least.

921
00:41:29,584 --> 00:41:33,310
And so I think you can
certainly join in there

922
00:41:33,310 --> 00:41:35,210
and we can communicate that
from department chairs.

923
00:41:35,210 --> 00:41:37,825
I don't think that that's
going to be as difficult

924
00:41:37,825 --> 00:41:40,500
in these kinds of policies,

925
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,619
but I do feel like a broader conversation

926
00:41:42,619 --> 00:41:44,100
with faculty in general,

927
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:45,360
rather than go through the chairs

928
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,060
because by that time
the message gets lost.

929
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:51,270
So for CRCA and for Elaine
and for (indistinct),

930
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:53,720
I think a larger meeting platform

931
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,600
would probably be more helpful.

932
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,690
So Katie, with respect to your request,

933
00:41:57,690 --> 00:42:01,460
I think I will probably tell Taylor.

934
00:42:01,460 --> 00:42:03,370
We'll figure out if we can
do that in the next meeting

935
00:42:03,370 --> 00:42:04,400
or the following meeting.

936
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,530
- Yeah, that absolutely makes sense.

937
00:42:05,530 --> 00:42:06,742
Thank you.

938
00:42:06,742 --> 00:42:07,575
- [Woman] Yeah, yeah.

939
00:42:10,930 --> 00:42:13,750
- Any other questions or thoughts?

940
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:15,040
Anybody?

941
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,100
Any of the presenters

942
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:18,418
think of something you didn't mention

943
00:42:18,418 --> 00:42:20,723
you'd like to bring up?

944
00:42:23,410 --> 00:42:25,030
Yes, Ken.

945
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:27,751
- I've got a lot of questions.

946
00:42:27,751 --> 00:42:29,260
- Good, good.

947
00:42:29,260 --> 00:42:31,480
- I'm not going to take
up this recording with it.

948
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,121
I have already been
underway with a proposal,

949
00:42:36,121 --> 00:42:38,470
an unusual proposal.

950
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:43,040
I'm looking to do an
exhibition of selected work

951
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,040
from 1992 to 2022.

952
00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:50,380
I've been offered a venue
from the city of Salem

953
00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:52,560
at Salem old town hall.

954
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,560
So I assume that is a
funder to this proposal.

955
00:42:59,450 --> 00:43:03,410
The fact that I've been given a venue,

956
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:04,520
but I have lots of questions

957
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,530
about the idea for this exhibition

958
00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:12,500
is to also parlay it
into other exhibitions

959
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:13,720
as an artist is,

960
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:17,300
is how we progress with
the work that we do.

961
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:21,410
So I think this is a
little unusual proposal

962
00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:25,480
than you probably get through your office.

963
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,330
- So, I'm very, very
glad that you attended

964
00:43:29,330 --> 00:43:32,240
and asked that question on the recording

965
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,480
because it allows us to address

966
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,190
something that comes up frequently,

967
00:43:36,190 --> 00:43:39,940
not just with the visual and plastic arts,

968
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:44,813
but with theater, with
performance, with other art forms.

969
00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:51,060
So for the purposes of
the internal grants,

970
00:43:52,250 --> 00:43:54,340
the committee considers things

971
00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:57,040
like an exhibition of your work,

972
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,980
the equivalent of a publication.

973
00:43:58,980 --> 00:44:03,420
So if you were to disseminate your work

974
00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:06,290
through a public exhibition

975
00:44:06,290 --> 00:44:09,070
that was vetted in the same way

976
00:44:09,070 --> 00:44:13,750
that a book would be vetted
by publishers, right?

977
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:17,440
Like it's not the same as displaying it

978
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,280
in your own living room

979
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,780
and inviting your friends in, right.

980
00:44:19,780 --> 00:44:22,373
There has to be that
sort of vetting process.

981
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,240
Then that's considered
a parallel publication

982
00:44:29,260 --> 00:44:34,093
or a parallel dissemination
of the work that you've done.

983
00:44:38,890 --> 00:44:39,723
- [Ken] Okay.

984
00:44:39,723 --> 00:44:41,210
- Karen Geoghegan can be really help.

985
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:45,083
She serves on the URAC
committee that reviews these.

986
00:44:45,083 --> 00:44:47,450
She can be very helpful in giving you tips

987
00:44:47,450 --> 00:44:52,140
about how to frame your language

988
00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:55,917
in a way that faculty from
completely different disciplines

989
00:44:55,917 --> 00:44:58,320
can find it more accessible

990
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,250
to translate into the
equivalent in your field.

991
00:45:02,250 --> 00:45:03,300
- Excellent.

992
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:04,230
- [Katie] I would just say...

993
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:05,734
Sorry, go ahead.

994
00:45:05,734 --> 00:45:08,869
- And if you don't mind, Vanessa,

995
00:45:08,869 --> 00:45:13,550
I'd love to run my proposal
by you before the deadline,

996
00:45:13,550 --> 00:45:15,841
to just get some feedback from you

997
00:45:15,841 --> 00:45:19,010
with regard to how I'm approaching this

998
00:45:19,010 --> 00:45:20,170
and what's missing

999
00:45:20,170 --> 00:45:24,283
and what might be important to add.

1000
00:45:25,296 --> 00:45:26,910
- I would be happy to.

1001
00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:28,510
- I appreciate that.

1002
00:45:28,510 --> 00:45:29,343
Appreciate that.

1003
00:45:29,343 --> 00:45:30,593
Thank you.

1004
00:45:30,593 --> 00:45:31,800
- I was just going to offer a suggestion

1005
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,810
that popped into my mind,

1006
00:45:33,810 --> 00:45:35,465
is knowing a very, very small bit

1007
00:45:35,465 --> 00:45:37,120
about what your initiative looks to be

1008
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,800
and how to expand on that further

1009
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,970
as a possible funder for you,

1010
00:45:40,970 --> 00:45:43,070
again, without knowing
exactly the perimeters

1011
00:45:43,070 --> 00:45:45,050
or the costs or anything would be

1012
00:45:45,050 --> 00:45:48,330
perhaps to investigate
Massachusetts Cultural Council

1013
00:45:48,330 --> 00:45:50,810
and then underneath that
the local cultural council.

1014
00:45:50,810 --> 00:45:52,270
So Salem Cultural Council

1015
00:45:52,270 --> 00:45:53,550
might be an opportunity for you

1016
00:45:53,550 --> 00:45:55,211
to apply for a future grant.

1017
00:45:55,211 --> 00:45:58,550
We've attempted it before,

1018
00:45:58,550 --> 00:46:00,180
but we were not successful,

1019
00:46:00,180 --> 00:46:02,080
only one time since I've done it.

1020
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,950
But often Salem in particular

1021
00:46:03,950 --> 00:46:07,470
has a decent size pot of money

1022
00:46:07,470 --> 00:46:10,160
and we've investigated options with Karen

1023
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,820
and just haven't pursued anything

1024
00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:14,740
since our initial application
a couple of years ago,

1025
00:46:14,740 --> 00:46:16,220
but that might be an interesting project,

1026
00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:18,590
they're often very community-based

1027
00:46:18,590 --> 00:46:20,040
for people that live and work

1028
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,320
in the community that it's in

1029
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,670
and also impact the public that it's in.

1030
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:25,460
Salem in particular usually also has

1031
00:46:25,460 --> 00:46:27,690
kind of a subset of goals.

1032
00:46:27,690 --> 00:46:29,700
So depending on what your exhibition is

1033
00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:32,320
that may align well in a given year.

1034
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,020
I will just say, looking at the calendar,

1035
00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:35,570
I believe for this year,

1036
00:46:35,570 --> 00:46:37,180
at least that deadline has just passed,

1037
00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:38,727
but that could be something

1038
00:46:38,727 --> 00:46:41,198
where you could say I would
endeavor to apply for that

1039
00:46:41,198 --> 00:46:43,130
in the fall of 2022 for
part of your application.

1040
00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:44,870
But sometimes we know these things

1041
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:45,730
just off the top of our heads.

1042
00:46:45,730 --> 00:46:48,309
Sometimes we do take some
time to look them up.

1043
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:50,903
- Thank you, thank you.

1044
00:46:53,337 --> 00:46:56,220
- Can I ask you Ken?

1045
00:46:56,220 --> 00:47:01,220
So your material spans 1992 to 2022.

1046
00:47:01,452 --> 00:47:03,350
Did I miss something?

1047
00:47:03,350 --> 00:47:07,163
Did you tell us what the kind
of subject matter was, or.

1048
00:47:09,610 --> 00:47:13,340
- Subject matter is a review of work

1049
00:47:13,340 --> 00:47:15,253
created during that 30 year period.

1050
00:47:17,170 --> 00:47:20,180
And the exhibition at old town hall

1051
00:47:20,180 --> 00:47:22,905
is going to be a
re-assemblage of that work

1052
00:47:22,905 --> 00:47:25,710
for this exhibition,

1053
00:47:25,710 --> 00:47:29,770
from January the 17th
until February the 20th.

1054
00:47:29,770 --> 00:47:33,240
- So Ken, would you
call that, in your biz,

1055
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:36,577
is that retrospective?

1056
00:47:36,577 --> 00:47:38,531
- [Ken] I hate...

1057
00:47:38,531 --> 00:47:39,630
- Okay.

1058
00:47:39,630 --> 00:47:43,300
- I hate to refer to it
as a retrospective only

1059
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:45,357
because as a curator,

1060
00:47:45,357 --> 00:47:48,210
and this is one of the
reasons for doing this show,

1061
00:47:48,210 --> 00:47:50,980
it's also a way of
connecting and networking

1062
00:47:50,980 --> 00:47:55,500
with other educational
institutions in the art departments

1063
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,330
to parlay it into other artists and shows

1064
00:47:59,330 --> 00:48:01,433
for the Winfisky at the same time,

1065
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,113
of which I'm the director of.

1066
00:48:05,540 --> 00:48:10,540
So it's an opportunity to kind of work it

1067
00:48:11,150 --> 00:48:14,770
into the Winfisky.

1068
00:48:14,770 --> 00:48:16,300
And, I'm sorry, Elaine,

1069
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:20,320
I forgot where I was going
to say right before that,

1070
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,320
but your question one more time, Elaine.

1071
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,930
- So Ken, I didn't, I actually,

1072
00:48:30,930 --> 00:48:34,520
what I was wondering was if
there was some kind of a theme

1073
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,520
or if it was a certain
medium you were using.

1074
00:48:39,746 --> 00:48:42,620
I was just trying to get a sense of like,

1075
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:47,120
if we could relate this to grants

1076
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:52,046
that are looking for, you know, community,

1077
00:48:52,046 --> 00:48:54,310
I'll call them community presentations

1078
00:48:54,310 --> 00:48:56,470
or community involvement or whatever,

1079
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:58,130
especially where you're talking about

1080
00:48:58,130 --> 00:49:01,674
having it down at the Salem city hall.

1081
00:49:01,674 --> 00:49:03,950
Maybe what I need to do

1082
00:49:03,950 --> 00:49:07,110
is just get more information
from you sometime.

1083
00:49:07,110 --> 00:49:09,145
- I would be glad to.

1084
00:49:09,145 --> 00:49:09,978
I would be glad to.

1085
00:49:09,978 --> 00:49:13,540
And that's one of the
purposes of the show too.

1086
00:49:13,540 --> 00:49:18,540
You know, it's a research project for me

1087
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,170
to review the work that's happening

1088
00:49:21,170 --> 00:49:23,120
because what I do in the studio

1089
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,250
is an integral part of what
happens in the classroom.

1090
00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:27,340
So these integral roles

1091
00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:30,510
of both curator of the Winfisky gallery,

1092
00:49:30,510 --> 00:49:35,070
the independent production
that I do as a fine artist.

1093
00:49:35,070 --> 00:49:40,070
And other other shows
for the Winfisky gallery

1094
00:49:41,006 --> 00:49:43,500
is kind of the purpose of this thing.

1095
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:46,145
I'd like to parlay it into a catalog

1096
00:49:46,145 --> 00:49:48,653
at the same time as well.

1097
00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:53,520
But the research I do, like
I say, the research I do

1098
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,520
is different than the book,
as Elizabeth had mentioned.

1099
00:49:59,270 --> 00:50:03,700
It's the act of assembling
this into an exhibition,

1100
00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:06,670
and as the director of
the Winfisky gallery,

1101
00:50:06,670 --> 00:50:10,340
rather than treating
it as a retrospective,

1102
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,702
it's an opportunity to
take 30 years of work

1103
00:50:14,702 --> 00:50:19,480
and assemble it as a
curator into a new show.

1104
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,313
Actually.

1105
00:50:21,310 --> 00:50:22,360
Does that make sense?

1106
00:50:23,916 --> 00:50:25,749
- It does. It makes a lot of sense.

1107
00:50:25,749 --> 00:50:27,330
Like I say, I would love to,

1108
00:50:27,330 --> 00:50:28,530
if I can just send you an email

1109
00:50:28,530 --> 00:50:30,390
and we can set up a time to chat

1110
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:35,246
because I'd love to know more about this

1111
00:50:35,246 --> 00:50:37,838
and maybe it could be incorporated into.

1112
00:50:37,838 --> 00:50:40,580
What I'm thinking is this would be

1113
00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:44,035
a piece of a larger project.

1114
00:50:44,035 --> 00:50:45,859
- And it is.

1115
00:50:45,859 --> 00:50:48,109
(laughing)

1116
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,620
Yes, it's an ongoing thing.

1117
00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:52,070
That's why I say it's unusual.

1118
00:50:52,070 --> 00:50:54,407
And that's what I'm trying to put together

1119
00:50:54,407 --> 00:50:57,500
in the narrative that I'm creating

1120
00:50:57,500 --> 00:50:59,330
for this proposal.

1121
00:50:59,330 --> 00:51:03,930
Is how it kind of works on both
the work I do at the college

1122
00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:05,320
and the work I've done.

1123
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,290
You know, that's one of the reasons

1124
00:51:07,290 --> 00:51:08,860
I got this venue

1125
00:51:08,860 --> 00:51:10,940
is because I've got a
very good relationship

1126
00:51:10,940 --> 00:51:11,773
with the city.

1127
00:51:11,773 --> 00:51:16,023
I think early on before they
even had a public art program,

1128
00:51:16,023 --> 00:51:19,800
I was working with the mayor
on public art for our students

1129
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,250
in summers two weeks at a time.

1130
00:51:22,250 --> 00:51:24,623
And I think I'd like to think

1131
00:51:24,623 --> 00:51:26,188
that that kind of parlayed itself

1132
00:51:26,188 --> 00:51:27,280
into this public art program

1133
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,750
that now is underway with Julie Berry.

1134
00:51:30,750 --> 00:51:34,255
So I have a lot to think about.

1135
00:51:34,255 --> 00:51:37,060
- And it's always so wonderful

1136
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:39,598
to see how a germ of an idea

1137
00:51:39,598 --> 00:51:41,700
can grow into other things.

1138
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:44,591
And I think that's where
we get the seed metaphor

1139
00:51:44,591 --> 00:51:46,080
for the seed grant

1140
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,760
is that we're taking these ideas

1141
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,240
and then growing them.

1142
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,760
And we don't always know from that acorn,

1143
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,140
what sort of oak tree is going to arise.

1144
00:51:57,140 --> 00:51:59,870
So once I start using metaphors like this,

1145
00:51:59,870 --> 00:52:02,440
it's time to wrap up the meeting.

1146
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,788
So thank you so...

1147
00:52:03,788 --> 00:52:05,718
Oh, Vanessa, yes.

1148
00:52:05,718 --> 00:52:07,420
- Just one final, quick thing.

1149
00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:10,010
There's something else
that came to my mind

1150
00:52:10,010 --> 00:52:12,180
that I think for the
committee is very helpful.

1151
00:52:12,180 --> 00:52:14,380
When you talk about
the dissemination plan,

1152
00:52:14,380 --> 00:52:16,570
I think you really explain

1153
00:52:16,570 --> 00:52:18,070
what it means for your field,

1154
00:52:18,070 --> 00:52:19,070
because, for example,

1155
00:52:19,070 --> 00:52:20,900
it might be difficult for me

1156
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:22,700
in political science to understand

1157
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:26,030
that this journal let's
say in, I don't know,

1158
00:52:26,030 --> 00:52:29,610
in nursing is considered to be
the flagship journal, right.

1159
00:52:29,610 --> 00:52:31,215
Or that this conference is the conference

1160
00:52:31,215 --> 00:52:32,611
that in your subfield is the conference

1161
00:52:32,611 --> 00:52:35,970
that is really well respected

1162
00:52:35,970 --> 00:52:37,930
or if it's in creative activities

1163
00:52:37,930 --> 00:52:42,060
that this type of a performance
or exhibition is something.

1164
00:52:42,060 --> 00:52:43,010
So just to explain,

1165
00:52:43,010 --> 00:52:44,810
'cause it's very hard for us

1166
00:52:44,810 --> 00:52:49,460
to really evaluate how other fields

1167
00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:50,970
or how people in other fields

1168
00:52:50,970 --> 00:52:52,060
disseminate the research

1169
00:52:52,060 --> 00:52:55,700
and why should I value
this as opposed to this

1170
00:52:55,700 --> 00:52:56,900
or how I can compare.

1171
00:52:56,900 --> 00:53:00,230
So, I think to explain
these kinds of things

1172
00:53:00,230 --> 00:53:02,940
can be very helpful for the reviewers.

1173
00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:03,773
- Yeah, absolutely.

1174
00:53:03,773 --> 00:53:04,913
Thank you.

1175
00:53:04,913 --> 00:53:05,773
- Thank you, Vanessa.

1176
00:53:05,773 --> 00:53:06,690
I think that's absolutely key.

1177
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:08,853
So I'm glad you mentioned that.

1178
00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:12,460
Any other last points?

1179
00:53:12,460 --> 00:53:14,800
Elaine, Katie.

1180
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,700
- I just always say like
follow the directions,

1181
00:53:17,700 --> 00:53:21,335
make sure your application
is full and complete.

1182
00:53:21,335 --> 00:53:25,140
In my world, if we miss
an attachment even,

1183
00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:27,160
it can go into the rejection pile

1184
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,150
because again, things are so competitive.

1185
00:53:29,150 --> 00:53:31,309
So just make sure to
follow those directions,

1186
00:53:31,309 --> 00:53:32,880
finish every single piece

1187
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,351
that you need to require
for the seed grants.

1188
00:53:35,351 --> 00:53:37,680
And I think, you know, again,

1189
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,690
Vanessa just said,

1190
00:53:38,690 --> 00:53:40,390
even like share it with a family member

1191
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:42,130
who might not know a lot about your field,

1192
00:53:42,130 --> 00:53:43,300
you know, or somebody.

1193
00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:44,367
That's one thing that I think that we,

1194
00:53:44,367 --> 00:53:45,940
Elena and I, bring to the table

1195
00:53:45,940 --> 00:53:47,150
is that we are generalists

1196
00:53:47,150 --> 00:53:49,200
and we don't know a lot, really deep,

1197
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,860
I'm learning a lot of
really interesting things

1198
00:53:50,860 --> 00:53:53,840
about biology right now with
a project I'm working on

1199
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,810
that I never knew about spectrometers

1200
00:53:57,810 --> 00:53:59,000
and I'm not even saying it right.

1201
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,240
But we also don't know.

1202
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:02,980
So we're the layman that can say to you,

1203
00:54:02,980 --> 00:54:05,340
like this doesn't make
sense or like you get this,

1204
00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:07,900
but like, if I don't know
what that acronym means

1205
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:12,450
then probably Karen at CCPI
maybe doesn't know that as well,

1206
00:54:12,450 --> 00:54:13,784
if you're in political science.

1207
00:54:13,784 --> 00:54:16,546
So I can't stress enough
to try to make sure

1208
00:54:16,546 --> 00:54:20,290
that it's any person could
pick up your proposal

1209
00:54:20,290 --> 00:54:21,223
and understand it.

1210
00:54:22,550 --> 00:54:24,004
- Yeah, thank you.

1211
00:54:24,004 --> 00:54:24,837
That's a very good point.

1212
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:26,853
Anything else?

1213
00:54:29,230 --> 00:54:31,490
Well, thank you again very much.

1214
00:54:31,490 --> 00:54:35,407
Vanessa, Elaine, Katie, Evea

1215
00:54:35,407 --> 00:54:37,320
for pulling this together.

1216
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,320
I think it's going to
be a terrific resource

1217
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,100
for faculty going forward.

1218
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:45,993
And thank you, Ken, for
raising really good questions.

1219
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,240
I think you probably got answers

1220
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:52,783
that will be helpful to people
even outside your field.

1221
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:54,753
- Excellent.

1222
00:54:54,753 --> 00:54:57,630
I appreciate all of your
help and information.

1223
00:54:57,630 --> 00:54:59,010
Yes, it was very helpful.

1224
00:54:59,010 --> 00:54:59,843
Thank you.

